• MrMakabar@slrpnk.net
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    2 days ago

    You have basically two sites. One loves the fact that Arabs and Jews kill each other and want the war to continue. They support ending German aid to Palestine and so forth. The other wants to end US warmongering in the region, caused by US support of Islamic terrorist in attacking Israel. Yes I did not mix that up, the US according to some in the AFD Biden supports Hamas.

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      1 day ago

      Thanks for this. I have a German friend that can’t talk about this without whining about how it’s upsetting and oh the jewish people in Germany are reminded of the holocaust and they’re afraid now and Hamas aren’t perfect victims and nobody is allowed to protest because protests are antisemitic so we just have to let Israel flatten Palestine and continue their apartheid with our tax dollars. And oh man I don’t really know anything about it but I still disagree with you and my perfect english is suddenly not good enough to explain my non position because everyone just wants to be right.

      I stopped talking to that German friend, but I’d like to know how to get past that brick wall if we ever do talk again.

      • so…

        you believe a random internet comment more than your “friend”?

        you’re ridiculing him for not being able to explain his position in his non-native language and you’re accusing him of “just wants to be right”

        I honestly think it’s better if you don’t talk to him again.

        Anyways, there’s a rise in antisemitic crimes, there’s a lot of antisemitic rethoric during these protests and they’re covertly used to spread anti-semitic, pro-iranian talking-points. Your friend is right.

        I recommend these two: https://www.arte.tv/de/videos/117974-000-A/das-system-hamas/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84gsvAKzxbg&pp=ygULc3RyZyBmIGlyYW4%3D

        provided you’re actually interested in the topic and dont “just wants to be right”

      • MrMakabar@slrpnk.net
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        20 hours ago

        Israels support of Hamas is a pretty good starting point. That one pretty clearly shows, how the Israeli government continues that situation.

        The other one is looking at the situation from an Israeli perspective. Iran is the most open anti Israel country right now. A lot of other countries in the region, do not like Iran either and are somewhat willing to work together with Israel. That is Saudi Arabia for example. The issue is that the situation in Palestine is preventing that alliance from forming. So a deal with the Palestinians gives Israel greater security in the region as well. If done right that would only mean the northern border to Lebanon and Syria is challenged.

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      1 day ago

      But afaik they support continuing aid to Israel. That ensures the greatest suffering inflicted on the greatest number of muslims

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      2 days ago

      OK, I wasn’t sure about German politics and thought that maybe AFD is not so bad, if they are against the establishment and so on.

      Now I’m sure they are the same shit, just boiled.

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          19 hours ago

          You’ve got an Israeli flag near your nickname, so my algorithm of getting such yields better results than yours apparently. They are not worth it, find an Artsakh flag.

          No, not just from that, but I’m not comfortable with Germany as a whole. Pretty cannibalistic opinions come from Germans on the Web sometimes, I don’t like German fashion and manner of discussion, being part Jewish - they often support most shameful things to me, being part Armenian - they often think that decency can be replaced with Israel worship.

          And a few German politicians I’d like to see hanged.