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“Erm akshurally, the correct term for sending troops into another country without concent is invasion. However, when its one of the Good Guy Countries™ its called self-defense and promoting international law. If you disagree then you clearly hate freedom and democracy, you’re also a Russian bot” -☝️🤓
God damn that is like word for word how every time I have lightly called out an invasion from the US/Israel. I’m some people see this shit besides me.
The West controls this narrative theough media, propaganda and social media. The constant fucking Isreal dick sucking is finally being noticed by a few.
I can’t believe they would allow blatant antisemitism on this website, how could you
Ikr, clearly I need to be locked away for thought crimes. How else are we supposed to protect freedom?
LOL. where was the hezbolla of poland? fuck any iranian proxy.
But Israel bad!! Stop ruining my fragile world view!!
/s
I find it intriguing, your name, but then you are here defending the invasion of a sovereign nation.
Oh, look. The hasbara has shown up.
Let’s tell him to eat shit.
LOL. no civilized person will ever root for hezbolla,hamas or houthis. i give a shit about groups of people that discriminate against women, lgbtq, atheist etc. so fuck iran. may they vanish soon. oh, and they will… theran is build on dry dust and as every regime they give a shit about people and dont tell their poor slave citizens. just like they right now dont even dare to mention consequences of their attack. right now iran is shitting on their people. they could warn their people, advise to have some water, batteries and food ready…but no…iranian regime is just animals and so are their proxies. no way around it.
Ah yes only israel is civilized tell us more about how barbaric those brown people are (which makes it okay for israel to commit Genocide on them like a truly “civilized” white society)
And the racism comes out. You know I’ve never seen a single non-Racist person support Israel.
You know I’ve never seen a single non-Racist person support Israel.
And all the countries that support and enable Israel are all countries with deep histories of white supremacist exploitation and genocide.
Must be a complete coincidence, eh?
a regime is not a race
maybe visit a school some time
The people you think are civilized keep bombing schools, while those you think are uncivilized build them.
no. they just give a small piece of what they’ve gotten. the regime in iran, hezbolla, hamas etc abuse civilians as shields to hide their crimes. but maybe you can point me to the lgbtq spokesperson for iran or the houthis? cant. because they are just hatefull and uncivilized.
Can israel just chill for once and can we stop giving them any help
With the upcoming US election, Bibi knows no one will take action, least it upsets the AIPAC.
So he is using this period as a window of opportunity to do this shit.
That’s anti semitism /s
Unfortunately there are too many fascists and too many Christian fanatics who believe that Israel and the wars it is doing are necessary for the rupture to happen.
Funny they believe they can make their God come back to destroy the little project He/She/They/It created so the most sniveling, back stabbing, and sanctimonious 1% can go a special place of wonder, happiness, and peace in the universe.
And then those 1% would destroy that place as well.
That’s the best fucking response I heard to that in a long time. I wish I could upvote more than once.
Rapture but I guess it’s a rupture potentially as well.
Yet another reason religion is a scourge.
Zionists have written that none of their surrounding countries are ‘nations’ in a legal sense and thus their land is free for the taking… by them exclusively. No fucking joke. I want to post my source later.
These people are worse than the Nazis.
It’s just the “empty land” myth that all genocidal colonizers have used as a pretext updated for modern times.
Please post the source when you can. I’d love to share it with my holdout relatives who still think Isreal can’t be “that bad”.
It’s this meme all over again but this time it’s Israel vs. Russia.
would’ve been a different story is Ukrainians were sufficiently brown
Or if the southern Lebanese had been fighting a civil war for eight years and asking for Israeli help.
Quickly, turn on propaganda, turn on Soloviev!
American media being more pro-Israel than mainstream Israeli media is continuously baffling
Cancer Islam
Islam is a shit religion, I know I am an ex-Muslim, but Christianity and Judaism are far worse. Also the modern root and success of Islamism today stems from colonialism, a response to colonialism, and the cold war. Muslims did nothing to make the evangelical Americans the way they are or to the Jews of what zionism is and has become.
imo all religions suck, but I wouldn’t call any of them cancer, that’s very dehumanising. one of the reasons I dislike islam is because it dehumanises people. saying shit like “islam is cancer” is just bad as calling for the death of infidels
Fuck off back to Reddit buddy.
I won’t :)
im sorry, war is mutually consensual in all cases?
I know a lot of war is generally formalized, but that’s mostly due to legislation and governmental reasons, not international relations. Or at least that’s my understanding of it.
About as consensual as defending yourself from someone punching you in the face.
Sure, you could let them keep punching you in the face…or you could try and stop them.
Can you clarify your question? The point here is that this is clearly an invasion by any definition.
yeah, invasions are normal under war. That’s how they work.
I guess i’m mostly just confused why we care about the clarification here, 90% of war is getting a one up on your enemy, either via readiness, attrition, or technological advantage.
The point here is that Israel is invading, but the Times was too compromised to call it an invasion. Usually when someone says “sends troops” to another country it’s to help after an earthquake or flood or fire or something. When someone invades with troops it’s called an invasion. The Times has a long history of unreasonably downplaying the violent actions of the Israeli government specifically, while using plain straightforward language in other conflicts, which demonstrates bias.
invasion colloquially would be considered a more official declaration of war, idk if israel has acknowledged this, and if lebanon hasn’t acknowledged this at all themselves, than i feel like calling it a literal invasion is probably a little bit presumptuous here.
Is the headline factually wrong?
Usually when someone says “sends troops” to another country it’s to help after an earthquake or flood or fire or something.
idk about this one chief, isn’t it usually “sends aid” or “send aid” do you have any examples of this?
like to be clear here, you’re claiming that the NYT title is biased, but then proposing an equally biased term to replace it. I would rather the title just be neutral. The headlines are useless anyway.
edit: removed a weird bit.
Lebanon is urging the international community to recognize it as an invasion: https://www.npr.org/2024/10/01/nx-s1-5134606/lebanon-israel-invasion-hezbollah-international-support
And we expect the biggest wepon exporter to stop it! The world is probably doomed.
“Annexes”?
Equating Ukraine to Hezbollah? Sickening
Racist fuck
The last time we heard this they flattened Gaza.
Mindlessly sucking Bibi’s dick? Sickening.
I was listening to German news this morning, and you could hear the anchor drooling when they were speaking about Israel’s invasion of Lebanon. Like, holy fuck, can we stop pretending all of this is normal and okay?
Well Germany is slipping into fascism with the AFD too.
Is AFD pro-Israel?
Most European far right parties are backed by israel
2021 - Far-Right Parties in Europe Have Become Zionism’s Greatest Backers
Last year, Yair Netanyahu, son of former Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, became the literal poster boy for the German right-wing party Alternative für Deutschland (AfD).
Netanyahu’s eldest son had provoked controversy when he called for the abolition of the “evil” European Union, which, he argued, was an enemy to Israel and “all European Christian countries.”
Far-right support for Israel is not unique to Germany but is developing across Europe. Alongside the AfD’s Alice Weidel, far-right leaders like Geert Wilders in the Netherlands, Marine Le Pen in France, Nigel Farage in the UK, and Viktor Orbán in Hungary have all openly sided with Israel.
Oh. So the intersections between Russia and Israel are even bigger than I thought.
Frankly IMHO Russia, Turkey, Azerbaijan and Israel are in fact a system (maybe even a de-facto alliance) allowing them to be “in different blocks”, but work for the same interest. It’s not very well hidden though, Israel wouldn’t have fuel, steel and textile without Turkey, Turkey would be the main target of justified hate and freedom fighters on ME without Israel, Azerbaijan would quickly find its forgotten place without Russia, Russia wouldn’t entertain its corridors and logistics ambitions without Azerbaijan (and also power projection via its hands but with western military tech), Turkey wouldn’t have leverage on western countries without Russia, and Russia would have less power to stir shit up without Turkey.
A bit similar to how Armenia and Georgia are sort of a micro-system, where together they won’t be immediately eaten by countries from the previous list. But with them it’s clearly visible - if Azeris\Turks\Russians press Armenia down enough, they don’t need Georgia, if they press Georgia down enough, they don’t need Armenia. Both are very close to happening and would mean the end of both countries, unless somebody intervenes militarily, which is unlikely.
Israel always plays all sides and will happily destroy their “allies” to install leaders which are loyal to them.
Israel said to be the source of intel Trump gave to Russians
It’s also the reason why israel never openly sent weapons to Ukraine and withheld from condemning Russia at the UN (there are reports of israel being pressured into secretly sending weapons to Ukraine by the US)
If America starts falling as a superpower israel will gladly switch sides and volunteer as a military base for Russia or China. Backstabbing their allies is a timeless israeli classic.
You have basically two sites. One loves the fact that Arabs and Jews kill each other and want the war to continue. They support ending German aid to Palestine and so forth. The other wants to end US warmongering in the region, caused by US support of Islamic terrorist in attacking Israel. Yes I did not mix that up, the US according to some in the AFD Biden supports Hamas.
Thanks for this. I have a German friend that can’t talk about this without whining about how it’s upsetting and oh the jewish people in Germany are reminded of the holocaust and they’re afraid now and Hamas aren’t perfect victims and nobody is allowed to protest because protests are antisemitic so we just have to let Israel flatten Palestine and continue their apartheid with our tax dollars. And oh man I don’t really know anything about it but I still disagree with you and my perfect english is suddenly not good enough to explain my non position because everyone just wants to be right.
I stopped talking to that German friend, but I’d like to know how to get past that brick wall if we ever do talk again.
so…
you believe a random internet comment more than your “friend”?
you’re ridiculing him for not being able to explain his position in his non-native language and you’re accusing him of “just wants to be right”
I honestly think it’s better if you don’t talk to him again.
Anyways, there’s a rise in antisemitic crimes, there’s a lot of antisemitic rethoric during these protests and they’re covertly used to spread anti-semitic, pro-iranian talking-points. Your friend is right.
I recommend these two: https://www.arte.tv/de/videos/117974-000-A/das-system-hamas/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84gsvAKzxbg&pp=ygULc3RyZyBmIGlyYW4%3D
provided you’re actually interested in the topic and dont “just wants to be right”
Israels support of Hamas is a pretty good starting point. That one pretty clearly shows, how the Israeli government continues that situation.
The other one is looking at the situation from an Israeli perspective. Iran is the most open anti Israel country right now. A lot of other countries in the region, do not like Iran either and are somewhat willing to work together with Israel. That is Saudi Arabia for example. The issue is that the situation in Palestine is preventing that alliance from forming. So a deal with the Palestinians gives Israel greater security in the region as well. If done right that would only mean the northern border to Lebanon and Syria is challenged.
But afaik they support continuing aid to Israel. That ensures the greatest suffering inflicted on the greatest number of muslims
OK, I wasn’t sure about German politics and thought that maybe AFD is not so bad, if they are against the establishment and so on.
Now I’m sure they are the same shit, just boiled.
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you’re getting your political information/opinion from a social media thread??
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no, they’re really that bad. They wanted to sink ships with immigrants, they demanded a “180° turn in our rememberance-culture about the third Reich”
You’ve got an Israeli flag near your nickname, so my algorithm of getting such yields better results than yours apparently. They are not worth it, find an Artsakh flag.
No, not just from that, but I’m not comfortable with Germany as a whole. Pretty cannibalistic opinions come from Germans on the Web sometimes, I don’t like German fashion and manner of discussion, being part Jewish - they often support most shameful things to me, being part Armenian - they often think that decency can be replaced with Israel worship.
And a few German politicians I’d like to see hanged.
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They are not against the Establishment. They are the German Trump-Party.
Sorry this is totally OT, but is that place called Cafe Yourself?
It looks like it says Cafe youssef. Youssef is a fairly common last name.
And first name
I’m really sick of hearing Americans of all people, and Westerners in general trying to moralize about invasions and war.
wait until you hear about how the middle east handles war
Like that Westerner who set himself on fire over Gaza, talk about virtue signaling! /s
Oh yeah you’re right my bad, millions should suffer to fulfil this one guy’s ego for sure
Tu quoque fallacy
Let’s take a complex situation, make it worse, set it on fire, then spray the fire with gasoline from a fire hose. What’s the worst that could happen?
