• WuTang @lemmy.ninja
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    9 months ago

    OK CNN, so ? at least you get clicks and time views.

    where’s the fucking flag "we stand with " you were throwing up at our face during Ukraine invasion ???

  • HuddaBudda@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    Blitzer pressed Hecht on the logic involved in Israel’s decision to target the refugee camp.

    “This is the tragedy of war, Wolf. We as you know, we’ve been saying for days, move south. Civilians who are not involved with Hamas, please move south.”

    They have been bombing the southern humanitarian corridor too. So I am not sure what he is saying.

    Also, the thing about battlefields is that eventually the north becomes the south. At least if you are winning.

    • SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee
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      9 months ago

      once hamas has been defeated the Saudi’s still want to pursue their roadmap to stability for the region. there’s still light at the end of the tunnel.

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    9 months ago

    This is how we know they didn’t hit that hospital car park the other week.

    They’re not ashamed of what they do. They just say they were “targeting a Hamas commander” and walk away.

  • Destraight@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    I get it, the Jews want their turn since they were getting killed by the german Nazis in the Holocaust.Now they want to do it to the Palestinians.

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    9 months ago

    That’s our fucking tax money, that’s what’s killing me. We are indirectly funding the killing of all of these innocent people. I hate life.

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        9 months ago

        Hamas fires thousands of rockets at Israeli, if it didn’t have iron dome they’d have to prevent Gaza from firing the missiles, which means bombing Hamas and the civilians they hide behind

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      9 months ago

      your tax money is added to a pool. a very small part of that pool is used to fund interests internationally.

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        The vast majority of the pool is given to the military, who haven’t even successfully completed an audit, let alone passed one, in God knows how long.

        Don’t insult everyone’s intelligence pretending you know how that money is being spent; none of us do.

        • SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee
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          i have some idea. do I know where every cent goes? no. the government, most governments, are these giant ponderous masses of interwoven bureaucracy, striving to complete many diverse goals. the various goals are often at odds with each other.

          it’s the real downside of democratic governance.

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          9 months ago

          Some of the mandatory budget and discretionary non-defense budget can be directly or indirectly linked to military purposes, but regardless, the majority of the budget is social programs.

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        I’m talking about us, the people. Our government has been funding this shit for years.

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          Ah, got you. Thanks for clarification. Yes, I agree. Gawd almighty absolutely forbids using our own tax dollars for such ungodly things like feeding the hungry, healing the sick, clothing the naked or looking out for prisoners.

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        Yes but you shouldn’t bring up hypocrisy here. Stopping killing now is worthwhile regardless of what various countries have done years and decades ago.

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          And forgetting the past leads to repeats. We have to acknowledge the good, bad and ugly and stay vigilant.

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    9 months ago

    They apparently managed to kill Ibrahim Biari - he was near the top of the Hamas hierarchy. I’m impressed that they knew he was there.

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      I think the average person knows something like sixty or seventy other people, IIRC. Israel flat out killed that many to get one guy; imagine every single person you know getting deleted instantly but the government saying “don’t worry, we got him, so it’s all good.” That’s without talking about the injured, that’s just the people who got immediately killed. Spree shooters have better target discipline than these fucks.

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        You’re presupposing that a way to kill him without killing civilians existed, but I don’t think it’s a coincidence that so many civilians just happened to be around him. As long as he’s near civilians, Israel either has to avoid killing him or triggers international outrage, so of course he’s going to stay near civilians.

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      9 months ago

      This whole thing follows on the crowning jewel of intelligence fuckups, so I wouldn’t take any of their claims too seriously.

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    I mean yeah, that’s where the Palestinians are, who did they think was the target of a military attack on a city?

    It’s getting hard for people to pretend that this isn’t a genocide when the people doing it aren’t even bothering to pretend it isn’t.

  • Rapidcreek@reddthat.com
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    You mean this?

    “A short while ago, IDF fighter jets, acting on ISA intelligence, killed Ibrahim Biari, the Commander of Hamas’ Central Jabaliya Battalion. Biari was one of the leaders responsible for sending “Nukbha” terrorist operatives to Israel to carry out the murderous terror attack on October 7th. Numerous Hamas terrorists were hit in the strike.

    Biari oversaw all military operations in the northern Gaza Strip since the IDF entered. He was also responsible for sending the terrorists who carried out the 2004 terrorist attack in the Ashdod Port in which 13 Israelis were murdered, and was responsible for directing rocket fire at Israel, and advancing numerous attacks against the IDF, over the last two decades.

    His elimination was carried out as part of a wide-scale strike on terrorists and terror infrastructure belonging to the Central Jabaliya Battalion, which had taken control over civilian buildings in Gaza City. The strike damaged Hamas’ command and control in the area, as well as its ability to direct military activity against IDF soldiers operating throughout the Gaza Strip. As a result of the strike, a large number of terrorists who were with Biari were killed. Underground terror infrastructure embedded beneath the buildings, used by the terrorists, also collapsed after the strike.

    The IDF reiterates its call to the residents of the area to move south for their safety.”an this?

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      You can put as much makeup as you want on a pig, it’s still a pig. Force people to move, and bombing civilians? Donning a Jew star in the UN? The whole country of Israel is a disgrace

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          Do you have any idea what that star was used for? Tip: it was not to mark people who was murdering kids. It’s spitting on those poor souls that was forced to wear the yellow star. These guys represent a country that bomb civilians and has nothing to do with holocaust.

          If you can’t see the difference I’m sorry.

          • pingveno@kbin.social
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            It’s the Star of David, used by Jews for millennia and the symbol on the flag of Israel. Of course I’m familiar with its use in the Holocaust.

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      Biari oversaw all military operations in the northern Gaza Strip since the IDF entered

      so…defending his country?

    • TinyPizza@kbin.social
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      9 months ago

      This is an article about how veteran news man Wolf Blitzer found such logic disgusting. You think swooping in and doubling down is helping disproving that?

      “My three kids are gone, my kids, no one is alive,” one despondent man named Jabar could be heard saying as his friends tried to console him.
      Dr. Atef Al-Kahlot, director of the nearby Indonesian Hospital, said the total number of people wounded and killed is about 400.

      What a just and noble war the brave bombs of Israel wage. We can all learn a lot from this I think.

      • Joncash2@lemmy.ml
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        I hate to tell you this, we won’t learn a god damn thing. Humanity forgets it’s atrocities as quickly as a generation passes. We do not learn the lessons of our fathers anymore. All we see are repeats after the old have passed on.

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      They did try. It was that there might be terrorist infrastructure there. They know there’s civilians there, but there might be infrastructure. They’re still looking into it, but they dropped that bomb, anyway.

      I’m only barely paraphrasing.

    • JustMy2c@lemm.ee
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      9 months ago

      Thank all of you dudes. This is the only non radical platform that actually consists of well thinking people. All others are…

      • JustMy2c@lemm.ee
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        Ow I have heard and revised those opinions. I’ve seen them in the UN today STICKING GEW YELLOW STARS ON THEIR OWN CHEST.

        WHILE THEY ARE LITERALLY BOMBING A TOWN.

        fck hamas but you can’t do that.

    • 4am@lemm.ee
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      9 months ago

      “tAnKiEs aRe ThE ReAl aNtIsEmItEs NoW! YoU cAn’T sAy pAlEsTiNeAn ChIlDrEn aRe InNoCeNt wItHoUt sUpPoRtInG HaMaS!”

      • dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Not sure what tankies have to do with it, but I think everyone understands mocking text, and yes, there is a lot of pro-IDF astroturfing on all social media platforms currently.

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    70 year of atrocities committed in Palestine with the support of western powers and the indifference of western media

    2023 : IDF commits yet another round of genocidal atrocities in Palestine

    western media: Surprised Pikatchu face 🤯

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    From the article:

    “But you know that there are a lot of refugees, a lot of innocent civilians—men, women, and children—in that refugee camp as well, right?” Blitzer asked again.
    “This is the tragedy of war, Wolf. We as you know, we’ve been saying for days, move south. Civilians who are not involved with Hamas, please move south.”

    Holy shit, Wolf is getting trolled on just as hard as us, but on live TV… I hate the future.

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      It’s fascinating. Every war has collateral damage and Hamas deliberately hides behind civilians- a war crime- and Israel gives them opportunity to leave

      And hamas deliberately targets civilians and you say nothing

    • SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee
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      but this is the now. the present. well, technically it’s the past. but tomorrow is a brand new day!

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      The US fucked up hard on its killing of civilians, but MODT of the time it was at least a result of supporting direct ground combat where friendly forces were engaged. At least that was true from weeks after the initial invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.

      Israel is tossing bombs at targets, using the most advanced aircraft in the world… and their ground forces are not within 10 miles of the site.

      That’s what makes this inexcusable. They had time. They didn’t have ground forces under threat. Every vehicle isn’t an IED waiting to happen yet. They have the time to check for authorization before letting a JDAM off the rails.

      The right to defend has to come with purse string implications if they use it as right to kill without mercy. They do this, we cut funding. They do it more, in clearly not accidental strikes, we impose sanctions. The purse will hurt enough due to their reliance on western arms, that they change lest they not be able to drop bombs at all.

      It’s one thing to have a legit terror target and mistake the building or some freak accident. It’s another to drop a bomb on a refugee camp and then simply shrug.

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        The video of the car being shot by the tank is a clear example of their actions. If anyone hasn’t seen it, there was a tank parked on a road sort of hidden from sight, in a ‘safe area’ in central Gaza, outside of the evacuation zone. A car didn’t see it at first, noticed and turned around still a bit away from the tank, as it begins to drive away the tank fires on them and kills them. If you look at the strikes going on now this is what it is, it isn’t a ‘Hamas rocket position’ or other BS, there hasn’t been a shred of verifiable evidence for any target that it was a legitimate military target.