• blackkn1ght@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 months ago

    So Alphabet:

    • is the developer the most used browser (chrome) and its open source skeleton (chromium) on which most of all of the other browsers are based on (edge, brave etc)

    • has the most used video platform online, with no close second (unless you count porn, but i’d still argue its not close)

    • has the biggest share of devices relying on its platform worldwide (android)

    • has the most used search engine worldwide.

    Alphabet has to be split up. Alphabet alone is deciding what shape internet will take in the future.

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      is the developer the most used browser (chrome) and its open source skeleton (chromium) on which most of all of the other browsers are based on (edge, brave etc)

      Which was branched from Apple’s open Webkit base, but let’s all also forget about that.

      They take the IP of others, spin it a bit and then block everyone. Burn them down.

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          The inevitable fate of any useful software that’s not GPL.

          When will people learn???

          Edit: Ironically, KHTML was originally LGPL. So modifications to KHTML were required to be open source by the license, but Chrome itself isn’t required to be open source (at least as far as I understand it, I am not an expert here). Nevertheless, if it were stronger GPL, then it probably wouldn’t have been impossible to write features like DRM in chrome. So I would have been a bit of an idiot to say that KHTML isn’t GPL (because LGPL is a weaker version of GPL), but in effect, the outcome is the same - all because of that big fat L at the beginning.

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          They didn’t do anything of the sort. We don’t need to endlessly recite the history of everything developed. If you want to call attention to it go right ahead but they didn’t give Apple a pass.

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          …they didn’t try to own parts the web. But I suppose we can forget that part too.

          Edit: ah - I’m in /c/technology, where apple hate is real. Nevermind.

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            They totally do though. You can ONLY use webkit on any iOS device. Chrome, Firefox, etc. they all are forced to use webkit on iOS. Neither Google or Apple are treating the web nicely, but at least you have a choice to use a different browser. Apple makes that effectively impossible.

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              Also you can’t really use Apple TV properly without an Apple device. Same with iCloud. Actually really any service they make only works properly with their full stack.

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              While you disagree with it, I prefer Apple safeguarding browsing. Do I want real Chrome on my phone, the most personal device I use? No fucking way. Many of us buy into the Apple ecosystem for this reason, to further separate us from marketeers and trackers. To say Apple is the same as Google completely ignores this; IMHO, Google is far, far worse.

              Of course I’m in c/technology. Bring on the anti-Apple downvotes.

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                I want Firefox (with its engine, not webkit) on my phone. With Apple that’s not possible

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                  Then choose a different platform. Why do I need to sacrifice my security for your choice? Android has plenty of good software and hardware options and customization out the wahzoo.

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                    It’s easy to not have Firefox on your device, just don’t install it. Why should apple prevent you from being able to do that?

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      All of those are meaningless peanuts versus

      • Owns the biggest (borderline only) web ad service in the world