The name of the community is Unpopular Opinion. Try to list an authentic one and see what happens. It gets downvoted.
If it is unpopular and you don’t agree with it you downvote it. The community name is not “Edgy Opinions That Aren’t Mainstream That I Agree With”
If you don’t believe what I am saying to be true I’ll give you an example.
Try to post this:
Dogs in shelters should be euthanized and the meat should be used to feed various farm livestock.
That will get downvoted and you know that to be true.
Let the downvotes for this post commence!
Just sort the community by controversial. There’s some actually unpopular stuff there.
Your instance has to be on 0.19 though.
What livestock eats meat as a mainstay of its diet? Why not feed the meat to people?
Herbivorous animals like cows, horses, deer have been recorded eating meat or chewing on bones. There’s videos of horses eating chicks for instance.
The thought behind it is: What’s the easiest way for something to gain specific nutrients like calcium, protein, etc? By eating something made of all those things.
With all that said, pigs will eat almost anything. Chickens are omnivores.
while true, this doens’t mean that herbivores would continue eating meat if presented with it. Their digestive systems are very much made to process plant material and eating a lot of meat would probably make them quite sick.
This would be true for us as well, except we figured out cooking which makes meat a whole lot easier to digest and kills all pathogens in it.
Oh yeah I’m not saying herbivores can exist on a high meat diet. I’m just saying that a lot of herbivores will “supplement” their diets with animal parts.
Eating a chick or chewing a bone every once and a while just keeps them supplied with some harder to obtain nutrients
Soylent green is puppies!
This has been the paradox of the idea of Unpopular Opinion since it was concieved of over a decade ago.
Does Lemmy have a sort by controversy?
In 0.19, yes. But your instance has still not upgraded I think.
Yep. It’s the same as the Reddit sub. Tried once to say that I believe that addiction is NOT a disease with a full explanation- and was summarily downvoted into oblivion.
Two problems with that. First, it’s like saying you think the world isn’t round. That’s not an opinion; you’re just wrong. Worse still, your opinion is literally the most popular take on drug addiction, informing all the moronic laws that empower cartels and cause so much unabated misery.
Seriously folks, an unpopular opinion is something like: “meat eaters will be viewed in 100 years the way we now view slavers.” That’s unpopular (and probably true). It’s also nonfactual, and therefore just an opinion.
The definition of disease has been progressively broadened to include anything that impacts physical, mental, emotional well-being and social functioning in a negative way. It’s lost it’s meaning and i predict that loneliness will be declared a disease any time now. That’s an opinion.
It’s lost its* meaning
Ok, fair call. I never learned grammar.
That “unpopular” opinion is something that would get hundreds or thousands of upvotes in many other communities on Lemmy. There are a lot of opinions on Lemmy that are wildly unpopular with the general public. So what is the metric for “unpopular” exactly?
It’s still an opinion. Opinions can be judged as wrong by those that disagree. It’s not wrong to me. I do honestly believe that addiction is NOT a disease and should not be treated as such.
The point of unpopular opinion is to voice these opinions without being destroyed in the process.
Instead, it’s basically a troll farm of shit posts.
It’s not about disagreeing with opinions in this case. That is factually wrong.
I disagree. See how that works?
Facts don’t care if you agree.
Looks like you’re starting to understand how opinions work. Now go forth into the world and let everyone know you learned something.
You know, I’m actually going to post something here, I usually just lurk around lemmy.
Because I agree with you.
Fundamentally, people can have opinions about “facts” including that those facts are incorrect.
Science has become a religion. That’s my unpopular opinion. And the scientific method is grossly misunderstood these days.
You don’t get to just say, “it’s a scientific fact” and walk away from a discussion the defacto winner.
Scientific concensus just means that a large number of people within a given field with a certain level of expertise agree on the same conclusions to any sets of data. It does not make it an absolute reality, all binding and unchallengable.
Science works best when these conclusions are continually challenged by laymen and experts alike.
Addiction in particular is not simple. And the labeling of it as a disease can be detrimental to recovery as it offers an easy out that can allow for interpretations that remove responsibility and free will.
Is that always the case? No. But I have witness to it. That’s anecdotal, sure, but that’s irrelevant to my personal experiences that form my OPINION on the subject.
It’s ridiculous to think that an approach to addiction treatment that places a burden on the choice that is involved in it is flawed and incapable of helping people.
My favorite quote on the subject came from Kurt Cobain, who once said, and I’m paraphrasing,
“Addiction is saying ‘fuck it’”.
You don’t get to choose to not say “fuck it” and cure your cancer. And while it’s certainly not easy, no one has recovered from addiction without the acknowledgement of their choice in the condition.
Maybe addiction is a disease. I don’t presume to know with certainy, but I do know that labeling it as such has hurt people in the throws of it, as much as I know it has helped some.
Anyway, I just thought you should know that you’re not alone in your position in this, even if what I’ve said isn’t in line with your point of view on the subject.
To the point of the OP, what’s the point of this sub if discussion on a particular topic is shut down with statements like “that’s not an opinion, it’s stupidity”?
Opinions can and are held upon all kinds of supposed facts. Let’s discuss them.
At least you contributed with some real effort.
Opinions are evaluative judgements somewhere below the epistemic threshold for facticity. Denying scientific facts isn’t “an opinion.” Worse, it’s very boring.
You’re not edgy when you claim that germs don’t cause disease. You’re just wrong. I mean if that’s what you consider an “unpopular opinion” you might as well fill this community with the autogenerated negation of all the sentences in Wikipedia.
I’m not trying to be edgy. This is my opinion. I disagree with the label. To me- it’s not a disease and I refuse to acknowledge that it is. And I never said germs don’t cause disease- I said ADDICTION is not a disease.
Period. Let it go.
Then we should rename this community to “dumb things that are obviously wrong.” Or maybe “anti science.”
You don’t have any interesting opinions — evaluative judgements formed on the basis of evidence disregarded by the majority — so you latch onto simple nihilistic gobbledygook. It’s just… pointless.
And by the way, there are tons of scientific takes that enjoy opinion status. For instance, “psychopathy is far more common than 5% and the condition should be treated very aggressively.” That’s an opinion. It’s an evaluative response to inconclusive or incomplete evidence.
I disagree. See how that works? It’s an opinion. And an unpopular one at that. But look at you proving my point! Go you!
People like the smell of their own farts
Telling people what they want always works out well. So does ending your post with a remark encouraging downvotes. Congrats.
I just want a Chinese girl to sit on my face, actually.
Lmao even this is 81 percent upvoted.
What is the purpose of this community? Like I get it’s for posting unpopular opinions, but to what end?
I ask this because personally I think it’s found a bit of a sweet spot between unpopular but still having merit with the mix of people upvoting based on agreement and what they think would be unpopular. There’s no real interesting discussion if no one agrees with it. Or is it just a contest to see who can say something everyone else disagrees with?
People want unexpected controversial unpopular opinions. By way of example, “videogames are not fun” might seem generally unpopular but then the post gets a ton of comments corroborating the idea. Seems like those get the most attention.
There’s definitely an element of triviality that makes it fun.
“Pizza is the worst kind of pie” “Fish are better pets than dogs or cats” “I love Nickelback”
If someone came in and said something truly unpopular, but actively harmful to a particular group of people or antagonistic, of course it’s going to be downvoted.
This isn’t a community meant as a soapbox for hateful or cynical opinions, it’s a community meant to be entertained by people with weird but passionate opinions.
Where else are you going to go if you want to get something off your chest?
It would be rude (and instantly deleted) if your went to a knitting community and posted “I think knitting is for pansies” but if you post it here, people will still disagree with you but they’ll actually engage with your idea because this is the place for airing out that kind of opinion.
It’s a safe space
This is definitely not what it’s for.
If you take this community too seriously you’re gonna have a bad time.
This is for lighthearted arguments about trivial and ineffectual opinions
Oh alright then
Wow, I agree with this edgy niche opinion!
Hahaha I always felt that these sorts of places want the main three:
- Second most popular opinion
- A quirky opinion (eg. I like wearing soggy socks)
- An edgy opinion
make every post here a poll with AGREE DISAGREE DONT KNOW/DONT CARE as the only options
remove the downvote option for all posts and comments
let the games begin
And your opinion is one of those
Hey! That sounds an awful lot like a popular opinion, mate!
fuckin edgy
Aw buddy I’m on your side here, but
Let the downvotes for this post commence!
Cool it with that shit
Most are mainstream even. See the "I hate being stared at "thread. Literally everyone hates being stared at…
