That’s just a bad conversation topic to begin with.
I feel like the comic is trying to defend women lying about their body. The assault thing is fucked obviously but it sounds like she’s saying you’re not allowed to talk about being deceived because this thing is worse
Yikes mate
I think you’re reading into it a bit too deep
If a guy was talking about a date like the guy in this comic I’d assume he was a douche. This also goes for both genders btw, used to work with a lady who talked about how a guy she hooked up with had stretch marks on his stomach and how gross it was. I have stretch marks from puberty, didn’t feel great to hear someone talk about it. Seems more like the comic is partially about people being shallow assholes in that regard.
He literally asked her.
I guess if by “fake” she means using basic social intelligence, then sure.
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I once got set up on a blind date with someone who was deaf. I was not informed of this fact. We still had a pretty good time, but it caught me very off guard.
Blind date with someone who was deaf
If you didn’t somehow tell them “sorry, the deaf dates are in the other room,” you missed an opportunity for a great joke.
I was definitely not confident enough to do that.
Deafinitely! Ha. Even more jokes to share.
I’d like to hear Miss Rhode Island’s answer.
That’s today… Everyone to out and enjoy a perfect date!
That’s honestly a magnificent answer. I know it was supposed to portray her as dumb (and the way she talked was supposed to emphasize that), but it’s a solid out-of-the-box answer that gives insight into their thought process (like that they don’t immediately jump to assuming their talking about sex/relationships).
I had sushi and shit my pants.
So about 50% was a good time
Checks out, sushi can ruin an otherwise good night
Just so we’re clear, which half was the good half?
Is there a casual relationship or are you saying you didn’t like either?
Then I went on the date and we didn’t connect
I love the funny pages!
“Dating a man is like dating a bear”.
It’s true. Come mid-November I usually retreat into my cave and am not really available for the world again until late March.
Only almost killed me once, that fucking depression, the last two winters were only straining personal relationships and my finances, so, yay I guess.
Do women even like men? At All?
Yes when they’re not being pigs about it.
Pretentiousness comic trying too hard lmao
Ooh this should be a good post to sort by controversial on lemmy
Once had one end with we got to her room, and she straight up had swastikas on the wall.
That ended that, right there and then.
I’m embarrassed to say I would have DMHSed that one.
Of course you would, you’re a lemmy world user. Nazism is hardly a moral hang-up for you.
DMHS?
Doesn’t matter, had sex
Ah, thanks
Did you tell her that that was the reason?
Oh yeah. I made sure it was once I was near the door(at this point, I was more than a little worried about my safety).
I got told “I hope I find you hangin’!” I will never forget that night.
“I hope I find you hangin’!”
“I’m hanging this dick and you’re not gonna get it.”
… I can fix her
Smash the fash
That’s a whole new meaning to “don’t stick your dick in crazy”.
Turns out she was Buddhist
Technically, she could be both…
Depends on the direction and angle of the swastika…
If it’s straight and left, the day is blessed. If it’s angled and right, it’s time to fight.
Fantastic. He was helping her find enlightenment by letting go of worldly connections. Mostly any connection to him.
You see them everywhere in Buddhist Temples in South Korea. Shocked me at first, but we learned about the history of the swastika and how the Third Reich stole it.
Taiwan is like this too, I was baffled when I was handed a tourist map and it had a bunch of swastikas on it to denote the temples and churches. Like a general purpose symbol for religion.
It wasn’t actually stolen from India/Buddhism/whatever. It has always been used in Europe to some degree, but before the rise of fascism, a funny thing happened:
An obsessive nerd found Troy. And the city had apparently gone through a period where they slapped swastikas on literally everything, there were thousands of examples excavated.
The public excitement over the find popularized the symbol throughout Europe again, and then Nazis stole it as a symbol for pretty much their whole schtick, including their (wildly incorrect) beliefs on Aryan race theory.
It’s interesting how archaeological finds can produce weird modern behavior. When Lenin died in 1924 he was mummified because of the contemporaneous worldwide fascination with Howard Carter’s discovery of King Tut’s tomb, not because of any Russian tradition of preserving their dead leaders’ corpses.
the earliest known swastika is from 10,000 BCE – part of “an intricate meander pattern of joined-up swastikas” found on a late paleolithic figurine of a bird, carved from mammoth ivory, found in Mezine, Ukraine
Literally the meme about going home with them only to find NFTs on the wall and then leaving in the rain.
What a douche, why would he think it’s endearing to show how shallow and fatphobic he is?
Is it not absolutely incredibly shallow to misrepresent yourself?
What? There is a huge gap between saying “She turned out to be a fatty, YUCK!” and saying “My date lied about who they were”.
It’s about being polite… but I guess that sentiment is all but dead these days.
Idk, most people have things they find attractive/unattractive about people. If they specifically match with someone they find attractive, only to find out that the person has deceived them and they are actually unattractive (to them), I think it’s quite reasonable to express distaste about that.
Imagine the same scenario, but with smoking:
“In their profile they said they don’t smoke, but when I turned up to the restaurant they were smoking and their breath smelled like cigarettes! Yuck!”
Would you consider that shallow and phobic?
The first answers the inevitable follow up question the second would lead to. “What did they lie about?”
Is it not more polite to be concise while conversing than being vague and dragging stuff out needlessly?
Obvs there is a massive difference between someone putting 5 pounds on and using a 3 year old photo when they were 100 pounds lighter…… you’re probably assuming the former while the latter is usually the case when they are blunt like this. And here’s a good hint, it’s usually the latter ones that people post, let’s be honest here.
You were also talking about being shallow, now it’s impolite? Make up your mind.
Ah, the classic “States rights to do WHAT?”
You can be concise and still be respectful. Wouldn’t you agree?
Would this exact scenario not play out in the reverse if it was man posting misrepresentating photos…? It sounds like you’re expecting men to be more polite than women in the same situations.
You’re making a mountain out of mole hill since you jumped to fat phobic when there is plenty of reason why someone would talk this way, it sounds like you’re someone who posts the latter photos and gets grouchy when called out.
And again, you started with shallow, make up your mind.
You pulled this point out of your ass, they never once implied that they expected men to be more polite.
And so was their point about them being shallow and fatphobic… so sure yeah. And they decided to move their goal posts when questioned, but i am the bad person… sure…
Sure they did, it’s either that or they were personally offended by the comic.
You realize the edit times are visible and my comment was edited well before you posted… yeah…?
What’s with the blatant lie? Don’t like having it pointed out that it goes both ways and need to lie? You’ve gone from shallow, to impolite and are now lying about editing a comment… you seriously need to make up your mind about what point you had here.
A guys worst date would be a chick laughing at him
A girls worst date would be getting fucking murdered
Isn’t anyone’s worst date getting murdered? I get what you’re saying though lol
Praying mantis dispute this.
I mean … you’re not wrong
Not anyone alive enough to answer a question like this.
I wanna walk through the park in the dark
Men are scared that women will laugh at them
I wanna walk through the park in the dark
Women are scared that men will kill them
-Courtney Barnett. Nameless, Faceless
Getting stabbed in a dark park seems like a pretty universal fear that isn’t determined by your gender. Most people getting stabbed are men, if we just go by homicide statistics.
Most victims of violence are men – most victims of DOMESTIC violence (or intimate partner violence) are women.
I’m not trying to draw parallels, I’m literally talking about the likelyhood of getting stabbed in a dark park. How does domestic violence factor into that scenario? On the other hand, I wonder how underreported domestic violence cases are compared between genders.
So, really, I guess it depends on whether “stabbed” here is a euphemism or not.
Both the song and the comment you’re replying to are referring to an old quote.
It’s attributed to Margeret Atwood, but she got it from somewhere earlier because she said, “I don’t remember where I first heard this simple description of one dramatic contrast between the genders, but it is strikingly accurate: At core, men are afraid women will laugh at them, while at core, women are afraid men will kill them.”
It’s one of those things that gets recycled a lot. It’s in the tv program about the strangler in Belfast.
Guy here. My worst was getting stabbed.
The topics this comic covers shouldn’t shield it from unrelated criticisms. That said; the art in these is incredibly lazy.
Here I was brought up believing that comics can have any style they want as long as they are funny, thought-provoking and at times challenging to think about.
Who decided you were the one in charge of curating art?
You’re allowed to have opinions on art. Thus, here is my opinion: that “nose” is ridiculous.
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It’s decently shaded and the people are well proportioned. The noses are just a stylistic choice.
Bro, really? To me, incredibly lazy art is XKCD and Cyanide and Happiness.
Really? I wish I could draw that good! They convey their point so well, and the characters are recognisable across comics.
Pull the other one. Link.
What a ludicrous argument to level against Munroe of all people.
The artist here uses the same image for basically every frame.
Honestly the audacity of comparing this to XKCD shows how thick they are.
Set up of this is very manipulative and parasitic. Trauma gloating/baiting.
I’m sorry your rape fantasies are ruined by the rape realities.
Stop being a prick. Rape is a real fucking issue that should, could and is discussed in different ways and at appropriate times.
Dumping trauma on someone during a first date just means you weren’t ready for a first date and need someone to talk to (or you just don’t get social cues). No blame on the victim here - but it’s important to acknowledge that a guy making innocent small talk isn’t a dick.
I’ve already been exposed to the “trauma dump” narrative and know that it’s only used by shitty people who have fuck-all for empathy.
Case in point the first time I heard the term was when I got accused of “trauma dumping” because I was telling an interesting story about some fucked up shit that happened in my life, turned out the guy just didn’t want to hear about bad stuff happening in the world and didn’t care how anyone else felt about it. It’s literally just “shut up I want to feel good I don’t care about injustice in the world” like shit sorry for not being boring I guess. If you don’t like it you can just ask me to change the subject like a normal person without having to make it a moral crusade.
TL;DR people shouldn’t be socially punished for coming out about bad stuff that happened; doing so is sociopathically siding with evil.
You sound quite self centered, if not narcissistic, to be honest.
People have the right to say they don’t want to hear about trauma, and you have the right to not want to socialise with those people. That doesn’t make them sociopathic nor does it make you any less a victim.
But as for the actual topic covered in this conversation - most people would consider sharing traumatic events on a first date to be oversharing, possibly even antisocial, and people who do behave like the woman in this comic tend to find it harder to get 2nd dates. Not because of the trauma, but because of the oversharing and what that tells people about you. Rightly or wrongly, that’s society right now.
Not reading that, not even 1 paragraph in and you’re already trying to psychoanalyze me as having a mental disorder as a cheap method of delegitimizing my prospective. I fear if I continue reading beyond that point I might actually end up with one.
You’ve already outed yourself as a massive piece of shit, so i’m not going to engage you any further. Sorry, I don’t debate fascists.
Buzz killers for sure, too. Like, people should be going on dates to try something new and as a way to try and overcome their problems. They’re attempts, at least.
If all that you’re going to do is dump trauma onto someone in a scenario like this. They didn’t fail, you did.
I’d make the point that this is a comic. You wouldn’t say that in real life, which is why the comic works. It’s jarring, and the bluntness forces reflection.
Right. I would hope the takeaway men get from this is that, “what was your worst date”, may not be an appropriate get to know you question for most women.
But basically no one needs to learn that lesson. It’s a strawman. Who in their right mind would start a date with a new person by asking them to take stock of all the times that same activity turned out poorly for them?
No one is going to behave like that in reality. That was the point of my comment. The artist wouldn’t enter this scenario in person.
I think people do need to learn that lesson. I grew up as a man, and never thought twice about cycling home after dark, or going on a date. If asked I would be able to tell you that women do in fact have it worse when it comes to experiencing violence, but it didn’t crop up as a consideration in my day-to-day.
I’ve since had a small amount of the experience women go through after cross-dressing on queer nights out. Presenting femme gets you treated very differently, and this comic’s purpose is to present you with an in-your-face reminder. It is a piece of art; it’s not supposed to be an accurate reflection of reality.
This seems so weird. This reads like she asked what his worst date was in an unshown panel, just to make him feel bad for asking her about her worst date.
the lines on the first panel all come from his mouth, so he prompted it
Re-read the comment and say that again
Think for just a second about what may have come moments before the comic. The guy reads as if he’s responding to a question.
That’s what frustrates me about some comics like this. The whole “was there a panel that I missed somewhere?” guessing game.
Because I’m sure conversations don’t exactly go like this.
